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Mahmud, 10, went looking for songbirds ... and died in hail of bullets
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Abu-Alwafa
2003-11-09 10:55:08 UTC
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Mahmud, 10, went looking for songbirds ... and died in hail of bullets
By Justin Huggler in Shajiyeh, Gaza Strip
08 November 2003


Mahmud al-Qayed was out doing what he did every Friday - catching
songbirds in cages to sell in the markets of Gaza. But yesterday the remote
olive groves where the birds nest led him close to the fence separating the
Gaza Strip from Israel. Too close for the soldiers guarding the fence.

They shot Mahmud, 10, four times, killing him as he tried to run.

The boy's father, Mohammed, was with him, and, at the funeral, he told
how he took the bloodstained sweater from his son's dead body, and buried
his face in it.

Mahmud was one of a group of about 20 - the rest were adults - who
ventured out to the fence to catch the songbirds, which can fetch good money
in the markets. There are plenty of witnesses who saw the group on their way
to the fence, and confirm that they were there to catch birds.

But the Israeli army said that it had spotted three people laying what
it says were electric wires and tubes used in explosives, and that is why it
opened fire. According to the witnesses, what the group were laying were the
cages that trap the birds.

This was not the first time a birdcatcher has been killed next to the
fence here. Mahmud was the fifth to die here since the intifada began in
2000. He was the youngest, but before him a 15-year-old and a 13-year-old
had also been killed.

It is a beautiful spot, narrow lanes fringed by tall cactus lead to
the largely undisturbed olive groves that are home to the songbirds. In
these autumn nights, the air is full of the smoke of the woodfires that warm
the locals.

But on the other side of the fence may be seen a completely different
landscape of vast, open modern fields and the Israeli farm town of Nakhal
Oz, which in the past has been a target for attacks by Palestinian
militants.

The Israeli army has declared the olive groves in this area off-limits
to Palestinians, to protect Nakhal Oz.

But, in spite of the danger, the birdcatchers still come. Money and
work are desperately scarce, and what was once a hobby has become, for many,
a living.

Last week, said Mahmud's father, the boy managed to catch two
song-sparrows and a rare songbird, a khudr. In normal times, this rare bird
alone could fetch almost £100. In the current economic collapse, the boy
sold all three for less than £10. But it was still enough to buy himself a
new bicycle, and not many children can afford those in Gaza these days.

A witness, who would give his name only as Abu Subhi, who lives near
the olive groves and saw the birdcatchers on their way to plant their traps,
says the Israeli soldiers should be well aware that the birdcatchers still
come and are no threat. He says some visit the groves almost every day.

Last night the Israeli army insisted that the only reason for
Palestinians to move close to the fence was to attack Nakhal Oz.

Surrounded by mourners at the funeral, Mahmud's father, Mohammed, told
how his son had been killed. "We left home at around 5am. My neighbour, my
son and I," he said.

"I was driving the donkey-cart. We got to Shajiyeh at around 6am. We
put out our traps and waited for the birds. We were about 700 metres from
the border. They [Israeli forces] fired two shells, that landed near the
electricity pylon, about 200 metres from us. We stayed on the ground because
we were waiting for the birds. Then we saw five soldiers approaching with
helmets and everything. I ran. My son could not get away."

Nimur abu 'As'us, a 26-year-old who was with the group, was wounded
and witnessed Mahmud's death.

Speaking from a hospital bed, he said: "The soldiers chased us. I was
running, the boy was running too. They shot at both of us. I was hit in the
leg. They hit him with four bullets. They shouted to stop and he stopped. I
kept running, I looked back and I saw him stop. I saw the bullets hit him.
If he hadn't stopped perhaps they would have killed both of us."

His face grew dark. "Perhaps the fact he stopped saved my life."

After that, he said, a crowd of Palestinians came running to see what
was happening and the soldiers gave up the chase. At first, Mr 'As'us said,
the soldiers took Mahmud's body away, then later returned it.

Mohammed said: "I took his sweater. I hugged it, then I buried my face
in his blood. It was wrong to kill him. He was young, he was no threat, he
just wanted to catch a bird. Where are the human rights? Where are the
children's rights?

"They kill children. That is wrong."


http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=461648
Lynn K. Circle
2003-11-09 15:25:01 UTC
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Mahmud, 10, went looking for songbirds ... and died in hail of bullets
By Justin Huggler in Shajiyeh, Gaza Strip
08 November 2003
Mahmud al-Qayed was out doing what he did every Friday - catching
songbirds in cages to sell in the markets of Gaza. But yesterday the remote
olive groves where the birds nest led him close to the fence separating the
Gaza Strip from Israel. Too close for the soldiers guarding the fence.
Mahmud and his friend were in a restricted area -- it was posted and the
villagers had already been notified.

The death of any child is a tragedy -- but the fault of this one is due to
Mahmud's parents not making certain he stayed out of a posted restricted
area.

During war time -- and make no mistake, the Palestinians HAVE declared war
on Israel and Israel IS at war -- those wandering into restricted zones and
free fire zones are going to be shot with no questions asked. If you are
forced to live in that environment, you stay out of such areas.
Heinrich Müller
2003-11-10 18:28:01 UTC
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Mahmud, 10, went looking for songbirds ... and died in hail of
bullets
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By Justin Huggler in Shajiyeh, Gaza Strip
08 November 2003
Mahmud al-Qayed was out doing what he did every Friday - catching
songbirds in cages to sell in the markets of Gaza. But yesterday the
remote
Post by Abu-Alwafa
olive groves where the birds nest led him close to the fence separating
the
Post by Abu-Alwafa
Gaza Strip from Israel. Too close for the soldiers guarding the fence.
Mahmud and his friend were in a restricted area -- it was posted and the
villagers had already been notified.
The death of any child is a tragedy -- but the fault of this one is due to
Mahmud's parents not making certain he stayed out of a posted restricted
area.
During war time -- and make no mistake, the Palestinians HAVE declared war
on Israel and Israel IS at war -- those wandering into restricted zones and
free fire zones are going to be shot with no questions asked. If you are
forced to live in that environment, you stay out of such areas.
pay a ticket for the poor souls you are from texas so money is no problem
Rodrigo Diaz
2003-11-10 03:28:53 UTC
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Allahu Akbar!
Post by Abu-Alwafa
Mahmud, 10, went looking for songbirds ... and died in hail of bullets
By Justin Huggler in Shajiyeh, Gaza Strip
08 November 2003
Mahmud al-Qayed was out doing what he did every Friday - catching
songbirds in cages to sell in the markets of Gaza. But yesterday the remote
olive groves where the birds nest led him close to the fence separating the
Gaza Strip from Israel. Too close for the soldiers guarding the fence.
They shot Mahmud, 10, four times, killing him as he tried to run.
The boy's father, Mohammed, was with him, and, at the funeral, he told
how he took the bloodstained sweater from his son's dead body, and buried
his face in it.
Mahmud was one of a group of about 20 - the rest were adults - who
ventured out to the fence to catch the songbirds, which can fetch good money
in the markets. There are plenty of witnesses who saw the group on their way
to the fence, and confirm that they were there to catch birds.
But the Israeli army said that it had spotted three people laying what
it says were electric wires and tubes used in explosives, and that is why it
opened fire. According to the witnesses, what the group were laying were the
cages that trap the birds.
This was not the first time a birdcatcher has been killed next to the
fence here. Mahmud was the fifth to die here since the intifada began in
2000. He was the youngest, but before him a 15-year-old and a 13-year-old
had also been killed.
It is a beautiful spot, narrow lanes fringed by tall cactus lead to
the largely undisturbed olive groves that are home to the songbirds. In
these autumn nights, the air is full of the smoke of the woodfires that warm
the locals.
But on the other side of the fence may be seen a completely different
landscape of vast, open modern fields and the Israeli farm town of Nakhal
Oz, which in the past has been a target for attacks by Palestinian
militants.
The Israeli army has declared the olive groves in this area off-limits
to Palestinians, to protect Nakhal Oz.
But, in spite of the danger, the birdcatchers still come. Money and
work are desperately scarce, and what was once a hobby has become, for many,
a living.
Last week, said Mahmud's father, the boy managed to catch two
song-sparrows and a rare songbird, a khudr. In normal times, this rare bird
alone could fetch almost £100. In the current economic collapse, the boy
sold all three for less than £10. But it was still enough to buy himself a
new bicycle, and not many children can afford those in Gaza these days.
A witness, who would give his name only as Abu Subhi, who lives near
the olive groves and saw the birdcatchers on their way to plant their traps,
says the Israeli soldiers should be well aware that the birdcatchers still
come and are no threat. He says some visit the groves almost every day.
Last night the Israeli army insisted that the only reason for
Palestinians to move close to the fence was to attack Nakhal Oz.
Surrounded by mourners at the funeral, Mahmud's father, Mohammed, told
how his son had been killed. "We left home at around 5am. My neighbour, my
son and I," he said.
"I was driving the donkey-cart. We got to Shajiyeh at around 6am. We
put out our traps and waited for the birds. We were about 700 metres from
the border. They [Israeli forces] fired two shells, that landed near the
electricity pylon, about 200 metres from us. We stayed on the ground because
we were waiting for the birds. Then we saw five soldiers approaching with
helmets and everything. I ran. My son could not get away."
Nimur abu 'As'us, a 26-year-old who was with the group, was wounded
and witnessed Mahmud's death.
Speaking from a hospital bed, he said: "The soldiers chased us. I was
running, the boy was running too. They shot at both of us. I was hit in the
leg. They hit him with four bullets. They shouted to stop and he stopped. I
kept running, I looked back and I saw him stop. I saw the bullets hit him.
If he hadn't stopped perhaps they would have killed both of us."
His face grew dark. "Perhaps the fact he stopped saved my life."
After that, he said, a crowd of Palestinians came running to see what
was happening and the soldiers gave up the chase. At first, Mr 'As'us said,
the soldiers took Mahmud's body away, then later returned it.
Mohammed said: "I took his sweater. I hugged it, then I buried my face
in his blood. It was wrong to kill him. He was young, he was no threat, he
just wanted to catch a bird. Where are the human rights? Where are the
children's rights?
"They kill children. That is wrong."
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=461648
BTov
2003-11-10 23:50:48 UTC
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Mahmud, 10, went looking for songbirds ... and died in hail of bullets
bye bye abdul..
you fulfilled your duty of the palistanian cannon fodder good..
you won't be missed by dear yasir..
where's that damn kleenex?!....
Cyrakis
2003-11-11 01:37:53 UTC
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Mahmud, 10, went looking for songbirds ... and died in hail of bullets
By Justin Huggler in Shajiyeh, Gaza Strip
08 November 2003
Mahmud al-Qayed was out doing what he did every Friday - catching
songbirds in cages to sell in the markets of Gaza. But yesterday the remote
olive groves where the birds nest led him close to the fence separating the
Gaza Strip from Israel. Too close for the soldiers guarding the fence.
They shot Mahmud, 10, four times, killing him as he tried to run.
Thanks for the good news. I love hearing about pallies getting
ventilated. The more the better.
moron
2003-11-11 05:25:31 UTC
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Sadly, due to the hateful racist bigotries of too many men, a young
lad paid the price. My heartfelt condolences to all who suffer from
their loss. I pray for the Middle East to find peace daily.

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